This frustrated and outraged David Futrelle to such an extent, that he was determined to get some attention from me - so he wrote this post.
I am going to write some quotes from it, and offer my insight to them in GREEN (big surprise eh?) I summarize about David Futrelle's post after the analysis.
The article is titled,
"When you assume about Assange, you make an ass of you and me"
My responses to his article are as follows:Response 1
Response 2
Response 3
The low point of the Men's Rights discussion of the case so far is probably this blog post by ScareCrow, who took a few moments from posting comments here to write up the strangest attack on the accusers yet.
"The low point of the Men's Rights discussion..." I am NOT an MRA Dave.
"who took a few moments from posting here..."
Gee, I'm sorry Dave, did you miss me that much?
The truth is - the Assange bits I wrote up took me at most 25 minutes each.
Allow me to explain: I am an engineer - when I start a code-compile, it can take hours - that is when I dick around on the internet... Lately, work has been busy, and I have done no compiling - that is why I have not been posting lately...
"who took a few moments from posting here..."
Is David an attention whore? Hmmm...
ScareCrow first demands that everyone assume that Assange is "innocent until proven guilty,"
I demanded nothing. I suggested that people think of him as INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY. That is the American way. What is your problem?
conveniently forgetting that those of us not actually serving on juries are entitled to come to whatever conclusions we want on criminal cases, for whatever reasons we want.
("entitled" - nice word for it.)
True, but as the title of his post says - do not assume - and he mocks Benny Hill's classic joke about ASSUME = ASS of U and ME. If those not serving on juries are "entitled" to come to whatever conclusions they want - without hearing the evidence presented in court - would they not be "ASSUMING" - see the title of the article.
How come I am not allowed to "speculate" about the character of the two women accusing Assange of rape? Yet, other people are allowed to come to whatever conclusions they want to about any case? Hmmm...
(Heck, we're allowed to disagree with jury verdicts: I have no problem calling OJ a murderer, even though he wasn't convicted as one.)
Take note of this - he is allowed to call O.J. a murderer. This will be important later on.
Still, in this case, given that we have no real evidence to weigh, there's no good reason to assume either guilt or innocence at this point.
I see, but even though a proper jury presented with evidence at the O.J. trial leads 12 people to find him innocent - you still ASSUME that he is guilty - even though you were NOT presented with said evidence - isn't that assuming (see the above point, and the title of the post).
Also, he is either being dishonest, or does not have the facts in. There is evidence - a broken condom, twitters made by Anna, much other stuff - read the articles I link to in those posts, or the ones at the bottom of this post.
It's what ScareCrow does next that's telling:
Yes, I agree - whole-heartedly - it is very telling!
after indignantly telling us not to assume Assange's guilt, he spits forth an extended series of vicious "speculations" about the accusers, based on ... what they look like in a couple of photos he's seen of them. (Dave then quotes my speculations I offered of the two Assange accusers).
The problem: those two women are not accused of anything. Therefore, the innocent until proven guilty rule does not apply.
And be fair Dave, the speculations are not that "vicious"...
And, to be fair to me - after the speculation, I clearly state, "Could I be wrong? OF COURSE." That is in the post.
Yep, that's right: she's a dirty man-hating liar because ... she reminds ScareCrow of women who
Note the cross-out - Dave changed it after I made some comments - Honestly, I thought that was funny. Read my blog - sometimes it was me. However; I witnessed this happening to other men far more often than it happened to me - on campus, in clubs, bars, lounges etc... Occasionally, a woman would make a big scene and start yelling at some poor fool - usually somebody who was conducting themselves in a civil manner. AND - the said "poor fool" never reciprocated the outburst (i.e. he did not become uncivil himself).
- I never called her a liar in my description - just a man-hater.
- Honestly, she does not look like any of the women who "turned me down".
- I was never actually "turned down" - to be "turned down", one must make a proposition - what I got yelled and bitched at for was saying things like, "Hello", "How are you", "Hows it going", etc... Or of course, I got "turned down" after a woman proposed I go on a blind date with her...
- I am not a liberal blogger, or an MRA Dave.
- Absence of evidence - I have already covered this. The evidence is not only previously mentioned, but also the ridiculous laws in Sweden that constitute rape - see this post (it contains references).
Will I lay off of David Futrelle?
Yes, and that requires some explanation:
To start, read this article:
Misogynists are not born, they are made.
Amen.
- The reason I have such an attitude problem is NOT because I believe that 100's of years before I was born women oppressed me.
- I do NOT have an attitude problem towards women because I believe that there is a secret society of women who are responsible for all my failings in life.
- My bad attitude does NOT come from me believing that every 8 seconds I have a 50/50 chance of getting raped by a woman.
- My bad attitude towards women does NOT come from society trying to convince me that any relationship I enter into with a woman will lead me to be beaten every 10 seconds.
- My bad attitude towards women does NOT stem from me believing that women resort to using DATE-RAPE DRUGS to acquire sex.
- My bad attitudes towards women do NOT stem from the fact that I had unrealistic expectations of women when I was younger either.
- I never expected any women to cater to me
- pay my bills
- fix any shortcomings in my life
- sign half of her wealth over to me simply because I "put out"
I had no expectations at all - except to have civility returned to my civility (oh what unrealistic expectations to be sure!) - I have such an attitude towards women - because of the actual experiences I have had with them:
- Irrational and hot-headed responses to civil approaches.
- Put-downs where no put-downs were required or demanded.
- Threatened with sexual harassment.
- Yelled at for making non-threatening remarks.
- Seeing attractive women pick total losers while telling the more refined gentlemen what to go do with themselves.
- My success blamed on me "choosing" not to have children.
I have had a slew of bad experiences with women.
WHY? WHO FUCKING KNOWS. I SURE AS HELL DON'T.
Some of the speculations that various MRA sites offer seem to make some sense to me. So get over it Dave.
What will I do about Dave's post bad-mouthing me?
Will I call him a mangina, white knight or even a misandrist?
No. I do not engage in name calling aimed specifically at MEN that berates the character of MEN - there is enough of that going around already. And I certainly will use no male-bashing language created by a bunch of TWIRPS that claim to be against male-bashing (DUR DEE DUR!!!)
Honestly, I feel sorry for this man. He is clearly the victim of extreme self-indoctrination from his sex. He also believes all the feminist garbage about the oppression of women (sigh). Perhaps he was raised by a single mother - and lacked attention from an adult male figure in his life - that would certainly explain his siding with feminist agendas, and craving attention from men (like his whole post baited me into giving him attention)...
His attempts to get attention from me worked - for now - just like a brat throwing a tantrum when he/she isn't getting enough attention.
It won't work again.
I pity you fool!
Here are some links to the Assange Fiasco:
Counter Punch
Crime and Federalism
Washingtons Blog
Fire Dog Lake
Glenn Beck
(None of which are credible sources according to Davee)
Just for sh*ts and giggles, I am going to write up a mock story of those two women...
Stay tuned!
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